Let the world know how you feel about the development of the area surrounding Clifford's Tower.
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Let the world know how you feel about the development of the area surrounding Clifford's Tower.
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York Tomorrow or Castle Area Campaign
 

 


The Forum. Discuss Clifford's Tower here!
 

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Name:
Jackie Jackson
Location:
USA

Comments

I live in the USA. I am from Yorkshire, though not from York. But I feel very strongly that those who have the power to do so should treat our heritage as precious.


Name:
Michael Blackburn
Location:
Freiburg, Germany

Comments

I am originally from Leeds, now live in Germany, although I did live in York for one year. I have loved York since I was a youngster, always head straight there whenever I am home. Clifford's Tower is one of the places I take visitors to show them the best of our British heritage. I have travelled extensively in Europe and seen how such treasures are looked after in other countries - there are no shops and offices in front of the leaning tower of Pisa for example. Please do not allow this most important part of our history be defaced, and spoiled for us all.


Name:
Sandra Smith
Location:
Canberra, Australia

Comments

I think this new development is totally absurd! What can be going on in the minds of these so called developers. Obviously motivated by money and greed! What happened to culture and heritage? For God's sake have a re-think and come to your senses.


Name:
Peter Sreventon
Location:
Odenwald Germany

Comments

I never thought I would say this, but I´m glad I moved,(Originally from Doncaster) England was once a place of Beauty and Heritage.Now it´s become the Builders Paradise (want to build anything in Europe come to Good Old England theres a little Green Belt left)When are they going to learn We need our Heritage not Multi storey Car Parks or Superstores


Name:
Susan
Location:
North Carolina

Comments

This is an outrage! Cifford's Tower and the area surrounding it must be left alone. This is history, important history that you are mucking about with. Don't start making Britain disposable or it will end up like the US! Yorkshire ex-pat


Name:
Louisa
Location:
Perth, Australia

Comments

Buildings of Historical value should never be brought down. Leave it alone!!!


Name:
K & M Brown
Location:
Australia

Comments

This is sheer vandalism. What has become of one of England's oldest cities? Although we left Leeds many years ago, York is the Jewel in Yorkshire's crown. Our family history goes back to York and we have many happy memories of our time spent in the City and surrounds, and we marvelled at the Jorvik discovery on our last visit. Please do not desicrate the beautiful city of York with this insane proposal.


Name:
Mark Andrew
Location:
Halifax, Yorkshire

Comments

I am very pleased to support any attemp to halt the proposed development of the area near Clifford's Tower. York deserves a more suitable use of this historic area than just another shopping centre built of fake 'leggo' designs.


Name:
June Fletcher
Location:
Goole,Yorkshire

Comments

I agree with the other comments,the city of York should be left with all its historical buildings for everyone to enjoy and not have them hidden by horrible modern eye-sores.


Name:
Andy Royston
Location:
Florida, USA

Comments

The planning of a great city demands that its most prominent cultural features are placed in an appropriate setting. Clifford's Tower might not sell T-Shirts or attract the multitude coach parties but its importance in Yorkshire's cultural history cannot be understated. And it must not be allowed to become the backyard of some ill-planned shopping mall.


Name:
Angela Gurnavage
Location:
Pennsylvania, USA

Comments

I'm from Ilkley originally, and I've always loved my many trips to York over the years. My American husband loved the City of York and all it's famous landmarks. People flock from all around the world to see them... so why spoil one of them?? Please leave the historical sites alone.

What's next, for God's sake? Knocking down York Minster????


Name:
Carol Fozard Parker
Location:
NSW Australia

Comments

I do not understand why people are so swayed to pull down places of beauty that have been there so long just because they think they can make money Leave Clifford Tower as it is


Name:
phyllis yeo
Location:
wilts.

Comments

why does developers want to mess around with our Heritage.please tell them to leave it alone.once it has gone they cannot replace it.I know that i have been in wilts since 1946 but that dos'nt mean you forget your roots.


Name:
Brenda Craike
Location:
Wollongong, Australia

Comments

I am a Leeds girls. Left there 29yrs ago to come out here, but York was always a favourite place of my Mother's & mine, & we had many a day visit & lots of happy times. Leave Clifford's Tower alone & the rest of York, it's history goes back hundreds of years, don't distroy it.


Name:
Sheila Coe
Location:
Canada

Comments

I now live in western Canada but was born and raised in Leeds, Yorkshire. I join with all the others in asking you to protect and preserve Clifford's Tower and the SURROUNDING AREA. If you destroy our past you will destroy the future.


Name:
Alan Ellis
Location:
Vancouver BC

Name:
irene schreiber
Location:
Wisconsin USA

Comments

AN OUTRAGE! it has been proved over and over that these type of schemes ruin the area for the sake of corporate developement.It is not as if people do not have a choice of a place to shop!.People come to York for the architecture and history,not to go to a shopping mall! Leeds is near enough if they want a shopping extravaganza! I am from Huddersfield,W.Yorkshire originally,that is a classic example of history destroyed in the the name of 'capitol corporate enterprise' The old market was destroyed along with the historic PACK HORSE YARD,NOW A HORRIBLE SHOPPING CENTRE WITH NO CHARACTER.I used to walk through the pack horse yard each day to work and then to Shambles lane, a once cobbled street , now a shopping mall. I now live in the USA and spend my time when asked telling people to go to York not London! Please think again and keep York the way it is!


Name:
Andrew Jack
Location:
Florida U.S.A.

Comments

I'm originally from Sunderland, England so I'm familiar with the beautiful, wonderful heritage we have in the British Isles. Developers must not be allowed to take this away from all of us. Here in Florida we are growing at an amazing pace yet I see something which totally amazes me. They build these ugly monstrosities called strip malls and invite vendors to open their stores there. Unfortunately some of these ventures don't pay off and we are left with an ugly building devoid of any life. Instead of the developers re-vitalizing these areas they just go and build another strip mall!!!!! often as not immediately next door to the failing one!!!!!!! While not wishing to compare our heritage with a modern day eyesore, my point is there will be another piece of land somewhere else, maybe with run down business's on it at the moment, which could be utilized for any business venture.


Name:
brian & betty sells
Location:
Monteith, Ontario

Name:
Linda Richardson
Location:
Texas

Comments

Although I live in Texas I'm a Brit through and through. Please leave well enough alone. Something like this cannot be replaced.....a concerned Brit


Name:
Myra Smith
Location:
Knaresborough

Comments

The one thing peolpe go to York for is the history not to look at the same shops that have apeared in every other town. What next the Yorvik theme park??


Name:
Ted Simpson
Location:
Leeds England

Comments

We must look after our heritage, Why not use this opportunity to make a garden or some place to sit and enjoy a lovely city.


Name:
Albert Floyde
Location:
Queensland Australia

Comments

Cliffords Tower is one of the many sites in York I love to return to on my return visits to your beautful city I hope you will leave it as is so that future generations can enjoy the same pleasure that I do


Name:
Laura Hay
Location:
Winnipeg, MB CANADA

Comments

I would just like to say that its terrible placing a shopping centre ( we have plenty of those) in place of a historical building. We should keep all our history, thats what makes England so great. Just cause ppl can make money out of a shopping centre history and heritage is worth triple that.

Please forget building a shopping centre!

Laura ( Brit expat)


Name:
BOB HACKETT
Location:
HAMILTON NEW ZEALAND

Comments

THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF PROGRESS HISTORIONS SHOULD LET HAPPEN.ALL IT WILL DO IS END UP A POINT WHERE YOUNG THUGS AND HOOLIGANS HANG OUT,SKATEBOARDERS ANNOYING EVERYONE. THE TOURIST LEAVES ,THEN THE SHOPS BECOME EMPTY,AND BEFORE LONG A ONCE PRISTINE SPOT BECOMES ANOTHER TRADGIC LOSS.


Name:
Joy
Location:
Chicago

Comments

It's unthinkable that this historic place be demolished to errect a shopping mall. If we demolish Englands great history who will come to buy in the shops that you plan to errect. Tourist come to see history not a row of new building. In the past demolishing has taken place only to find down the road a huge mistake was made that can not be replaced. Joy A YORKSHIRE LASS


Name:
Mel
Location:
USA

Comments

I am English living the USA, but it seems that my homeland is being destroyed by commerce. Why cant we leave some things alone to be enjoyed by future generations! Sometimes I think I can't bear the heartbreak of seeing the changes as more of our history is discarded as though it was nothing!


Name:
patricia faulkner
Location:
new zealand

Comments

Hope this never happens. shops we dont need. The tourists can see all the shops they need at home. The come to york for the history. why do you think they come to England, its because England is old. unlike their country. I dislike these shopping complexes, all glitter and noise. that I can do without.


Name:
Paul Cowburn
Location:
Altrincham, Cheshire

Comments

I fully support this initiative to preserve the heritage of York and our English ancient architecture. I often visit york and to think this sight could be swallowed up inside a shopping mall beggers belief.


Name:
Antony Palourti
Location:
Tunbridge Wells

Comments

I was born in Harrogate and know the tower very well. This absolutely cannot be allowed to happen.


Name:
Lauren Devine
Location:
USA

Comments

We must preserve historic monuments; not only for today, but for future generations.


Name:
Janet Fischer
Location:
Indianapolis, USA

Comments

I am British but living in the USA, and I see examples of the loss of history every week. I always extoll the values of the British and Europeans in preserving the integrity of historic buildings and monuments.

Please do not lower the standards in York by allowing the commercial presence to overwhelm the historical. Surely there are other areas where a shopping center could be located, allowing this area between the Museum and Clifford's Tower to be developed into an historical oasis.


Name:
Peter Bradford
Location:
Ellicott City, MD, USA

Comments

Please reconsider. Britain has little left except its history. Don't spoil that.


Name:
arianna
Location:
SWITZERLAND

Comments

I am ITALIAN but now live in Switzerland with my husband. We both love to travel but we love to do it RESPECTIN and LOVING the places we see, their culture and traditions and their inhabitants, from who we can always learn new and interesting things. This is the point, RESPECT for everithing is getting lost in too many places on this planet. Nature in FIRST place, but also historical heritage and different cultures MUST be respected and LOVED by every single man, because we are all coming and going to the same place, we are all the same but many people FORGET it by fear or will, therefore we shouldn't think that our misbehaviour regarding any of the things I have listed before will not "affect" our fellow brothers, our same family...and ourselves. People should READ more, FIGHT ignorance or those who USE and PROMOTE it as weapon against their brothers...start tomorrow -better today- and READ Thom Hartmann's "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight", it's a nice and needed wake-up call that we all needed from quite some time. And after that NEVER stop again reading in your life (you'll find suggested books by Mr. Hartmann or just look on the internet on any bookstore on line and see of the same topics what you can find...I did it and it worked!) ...and teach your beloved ones to READ and ask questions, to THINK with their brains and to LOVE the humain creatures all together as ONE. I know we'll all be fine - but i hope you will enjoy until you are alive...and make life enjoyable for all those you'll meet along the way...as I am trying to. Be blessed.


Name:
Gerry Bugg
Location:
OREWA BEACH New Zealand

Comments

Please do not let the developers ruin the most beautiful and historic city in the world. There is plenty of room for development like this out in the suburbs. How the council can even think about it beats me. Stand up the people of york and fight for your rights. Gerry Bugg


Name:
Emma Riggs
Location:
North Carolina Formaly of Walsall UK

Comments

Come on people we have enough shopping centers ..Lets keep our history it is one of the things that makes England what it is !!!!!


Name:
Ewan & Jenny Gell
Location:
New Zealand

Comments

Please include our names with those against this development, coming from Chester originally we know what such a development means.

Dont let them spoil something special


Name:
Christine Bubeck
Location:
Erie, Pennsylvania, USA

Comments

Please don't let anyone destroy this historical building, we should be preserving out heritage at any cost rather than destroying it out of the greed of some shopkeepers. For God's sake, please try and keep things in perspective! People visit York for the historical significance, surely if they want to shop they can go elsewhere. I am originally from Pudsey and when I come home to visit, Clifford's Tower is always on my list of places to share with any American friends or family that are with me. Please protect our heritage.


Name:
PETER WATKINS
Location:
USA

Comments

OUR HERITAGE IS OUR PAST ,WE LEARN FROM THE PAST .WE NEED TO SAVE OUR HERITAGE FOR OUR CHILDREN


Name:
Kelly Clester
Location:
USA-Maryland

Comments

Do not do Clifford's tower this injustice! I for one have never been to England, and hope that one day when I do visit I am able to visit Clifford's Tower,and the surroundings as they still are instead of the absurd idea of changing it. For the sake of history of what Clifford's Tower is today, and will be for many people to enjoy for hundreds of years to come leave it alone!!!!!!!


Name:
carl stewart
Location:
blue mountains australia

Comments

I used to live in york before moving to australia and i remember as a small boy running up and down the mound. It would be a travesty to have a big shopping complex right next to the tower. DONT LET IT BECOME REALITY


Name:
Pam Mouton
Location:
Louisiana USA

Comments

I live in the USA where they have little history and people are fascinated by ours. Places like Clifford's Tower are part of our heritage and we should proudly preserve it to the last. Trust me, we do not want to end up like the USA with nothing but shopping malls and commercialism everywhere. Leave Clifford's Tower alone!


Name:
Geoff Nichol
Location:
Middleton Tyas.  North Riding 

Comments

I was born and educated in York and most of my family still live in the city. York is one of the feww remaining jewels in this country's crown and its further despoiling must be resisted.


Name:
Paul Hornby
Location:
Oxford

Comments

I was born and raised in York and am still a Freeman of the City but lets have an input of realism about the Cliffords Tower area. The decline of the area began in the 1930's (long before I was born) when the City Council bought the area and demolished the surrounding castle walls and military prison. Work started on a new civic centre but WWll put a stop to that. The basements existed until the 1970's when they were buried under the existing car park (not a great loss as I attended gatherings there and it was not a plesant place). The present tower is stranded by itself and lacks a suitable setting. It is third rate in terms of townscape. I do not support the proposed commercial development but would support residential development on the car parks and some linear development to recreate that which was lost when the walls were demolished in the 30's.


Name:
Frey Jorgensson
Location:
Stockholm,Sweden

Comments

York is one of those rare cities that seems to develop and keep in time with the modern world yet retain that special feeling of history that is everywhere you turn. I feel that the proposed development would seriously damage that, people visit York not only for the history but for the shopping, those unique and varied little shops that line the streets are amazing. To build one of those ugly, sprawling monstrosities known as the modern shopping mall so close to Clifford's Tower would be a crime and would make York that little less special and a little more like your average boring city. Also, if the people of York are against the move the council should damn well listen to them. The people elected them and the people are the ones forced to pay the ludicrously high council tax that enables the council to sit on their arses making stupid decisions like the development. The development should definitely not go ahead.


Name:
karen
Location:
wakefield

Comments

york council you make me sick! I thought it was bad enough in Wakefield where the council want every piece of green land ripped up to make way for housing or coporate development but this takes the damn biscuit! How do morons like york council end up in places of power when they clearly have the foresight of a 2 year old child???


Name:
Dave Gorman
Location:
York

Comments

The Council Planners and members of the Council in York must be in league with the Developers to approve this appalling scheme. There's something sick in this city if this can go ahead. Its cheap and nasty. Where has the civic pride gone?


Name:
David Susman
Location:
Massachusetts, USA

Comments

This area should never be made into a shopping centre or "modernized" in any way. I remember as a lad being taken to York and would like to think that when I take my children back history will remain undisturbed.


Name:
June
Location:
Australia

Comments

I live in Australia, I am originally from Doncaster but my family are from York and Leeds. Clifford's Tower is a piece of our English/York history and it and it's area should be left alone. You can find other places to build shopping centres etc but once you destroy this a piece of history has gone forever.


Name:
Janice Wood
Location:
Hovingham, North Yorks

Comments

Please don't develop this area for shopping. Spend the money instead on redeveloping those areas which are already designated shopping areas. York has been spoiled in past times by ravaging developers - don't make it worse!


Name:
Colin Pickles
Location:
Maidstone Kent

Comments

The Clifford's Tower should not be ruined by having 'another' shopping mall built close to it. Some things should be protected from the profit seekers?


Name:
Dawn Pickles
Location:
Skipton

Comments

Do'nt build a modern development next to a piece of our history - it will spoil it for the majority.


Name:
carolpaigemia
Location:
australia

Comments

please look after CLIFFORD TOWER,S i really love to visit each time i come to uk,three times and we always visit YORK just love it there,it has so much history,you must look after it,bye now carol from aussie born in blackpool,uk


Name:
George Moody
Location:
England

Comments

Yet another rape of Englands Heritage which should be stopped.


Name:
AlanCartwright
Location:
Pocklington

Comments

A fine open air site used and enjoyed by all. Decked out in bulbs in Spring, covered in bodies in Summer and site of William the Conqueror's first building in York it needs preserving and presenting not losing it is apart of a vista Lose the view at peril


Name:
june Smith
Location:
Holland

Comments

As a Freeman of York, born in York as well, I think this development stinks! I do not know what the York council are thinking about, they seem to have their brains in their boots. Cliffords Tower is part of York`s Historical past, and to deface it with a modern building at the side is disaster. Have a rethink York Council!


Name:
John Dawson
Location:
West Midlands

Comments

York has enough shops. There's a great market and lots of shops for local needs. There are also the type of shop which smells very pleasant but sells all sorts of useless tourist ephemera. Stonegate for example now has very few real shops compared to the mid 70's when I lived in the city. I would like to bet that a new mall would feature the tourist- trap type of shop. Having visited the city only this week it's amazing how many people blandly walk past the city's great assets like the Minster and Clifford's Tower seeking out sweat shirts and stickers. Perhaps shops in a new mall would include olde worlde prints of Clifford's Tower how it used to look before the development?


Name:
Christine Suthers
Location:
Burlington, Ontario Canada

Name:
Mabel Jowsey
Location:
New Zealand

Comments

This is the most insane idea I've heard for a while. What has happened to the brains and hearts of these developers? Have they no sense of beauty, no sensitivity or feeling for history? Can they not see that wonderful historical edifices like Clifford's Tower are irrisistable drawcards for overseas visitors as well as local ones.


Name:
Rabbi Douglas Charing
Location:
Leeds

Comments

It will be a very sad day if this project is permitted. Future generations will regard us as Philistines for allowing a mere commercial enterprise to spoil something of great beauty and of great historical significance.


Name:
Carolyn De BOna
Location:
Townsville, Austrlia

Comments

I can't beleive they would do this to such an Historical site, I have visited Cliffords Tower and the Museum opposite on a couple of occassions. Shouldn't we be protecting the heritage of sites like this, not pursuing the corporate dollar. Absolutely digusted!


Name:
Deborah Beban
Location:
Wellington,New Zealand

Comments

Keep the tower in all it's splendour on top of the hill free from mdevelopment. It was a beautiful sight to see when I visited in the late 1990's. I was quite awestruck by the towe on it's own and would hate to see in overwhelmed with another mall.


Name:
Charles Pottins
Location:
London

Comments

Have just enjoyed a weekend holiday trip in York, visiting Cliffords Tower and other sites, and been impressed by the way the city keeps its history and its atmosphere. I am amazed and apalled that anyone should consider plans that would spoil all this. Clifford Tower is an important international monument which your city is preserving. Stop this unwanted shopping development, and let the people and visitors have a nice leafy little park where they can relax in peace there.


Name:
Terry Bratley
Location:
Halifax Yorkshire

Comments

As an ex soldier and a Yorkshireman who trained and was stationed in York for some time, I feel very strongly that any new development should not be built at the foot of what is a very important and historic landmark as Cliffords Tower. Be very careful not to ruin a beautiful city!


Name:
Terry Suthers
Location:
Burlington, Ontario. Canada

Comments

Why does history always seem to suffer because of progress?


Name:
John Davey
Location:
Sherburn-in-Elmet

Comments

Such a destruction of York's heritage is only matched by the destruction of the original castle walls two centuries ago! There is little cash in local purses - but attracting foreign money is a plus-plus-plus!

Look to tourism - not to car parking and local sales!


Name:
Malcolm Bull
Location:
mbtraining@aol.com

Comments

The more isolated the Tower, the better it looks on postcards and other recreational outgoings. York is for Yorkshire, for Britain and the world ... and not just for the speculators who want to rip-off York's history, make a fast £ and then move on


Name:
Anis Martin Kashani
Location:
Texas, USA

Comments

From the point of view of an American tourist, I can appreciate the benefits of having a modern facility to accomodate tourism and boost your local economy.

However, as an amateur historian I must vote against the proposed plan.

How many beautiful sites in your country have been lost forever by the construction of modern buildings adjacent to historical ones? How will those of us born in a country hardly a few centuries old ever see such sites if they are altered by modern structures?

I implore you to reconsider your proposal.


Name:
simon roberts
Location:
London

Comments

Britain is all to happy to destroy its heritage but once it is all gone there will be no way to turn back the clock. It is a crying shame that these out of town shopping malls, that are already killing off family businesses in towns, and then being filled with generic, poor quality dscount products that will have a shelf life of 10-20 years is even considered to blemish a tower that has been around for nearly 1000 years and counting. There are many other places to build a shopping mall, like in the city itself!


Name:
simon roberts
Location:
London

Comments

Britain is all to happy to destroy its heritage but once it is all gone there will be no way to turn back the clock. It is a crying shame that these out of town shopping malls, that are already killing off family businesses in towns, and then being filled with generic, poor quality dscount products that will have a shelf life of 10-20 years is even considered to blemish a tower that has been around for nearly 1000 years and counting. There are many other places to build a shopping mall, like in the city itself!


Name:
brian & betty sells
Location:
Monteith, Ontario Canada

Name:
Richard J Doggett
Location:
London Ont' Canada

Comments

You who are responsible for this Desicration will not soon be forgiven. I for one will boycott this development and any other site associated with the developers. Although I live in Canada I am fortunate to be able to visit Wakefield my home town once a year and always make the drive to york a top priority, My wife and I have many friends and family in Yorkshire, It is my intension to discourage there use of this proposed development. I ask you this "what price our heratage and what are we without it. RJD


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Name:
Brian Lovegrove
Location:
Brampton, Ont., Canada

Comments

I am a 3rd generation Canadian, whose ancestors originate from Yorkshire; a history fanatic enthralled with England and its turbulent history.

When I visit York, and I have visited several times over the years, I feel that I have been given the privilege of walking through history. The entire city is a living museum, preserved for all times. It is a city in which one can experience, not merely observe.

Anything which may detract from the awe felt when travelling it's beautiful streets should be discouraged at all costs.

York is a vibrant, lively city because it retains it's historical monuments and layout and utilizes both in today's modern city.

The present shopping area is in the same buildings and streets of old. This is it's quaintness and allure.

If a new shopping centre is successful in drawing business away from the York that every one now knows, the city will loose it's uniqueness and become a derelict museum.

York IS History!


Name:
Donna Edwards-Jordan
Location:
Pennsylvania, USA

Comments

This proposed development is sheer vandalism. As a frequent visitor to your city, I can tell you that actions such as this which degrade historic and cultural sites will DECREASE tourism. Tourists go to York for its cultural history. While there, we patronize its shops. Its local, unique shops, that is; those located in historic buildings along the snickleways. I need not travel to visit a modern mall. They are as common as grass here. The developers will make a great deal of money on this project, and then they will leave, having spread some money around to those who made their way easier. And very soon, you have a generic sort of city that nobody need go visit. Unless I have completely misjudged things, tourism is York's chief "industry". Its short-sighted Council is about to kill the goose that has been laying those golden eggs.


Name:
Margaret Clare Stoll
Location:
Essex, UK

Comments

Although I live in Essex now, I was born in York and I regard York as 'my home town'.

I disapprove of this proposed development. There are enough 'shopping malls' elsewhere, no need for them on this historic spot.


Name:
Mrs Janis Thatcher
Location:
Exeter, Devon

Name:
Sylvia Sorensen
Location:
Montmartre, Saskatchewan, Canada

Name:
Thomas Haskins
Location:
London, UK

Comments

It is sad that historic inheritance can be traded for capital gain.


Name:
Mick Phythian
Location:
YORK

Comments

Not a nice prospect at all - better a green space with a place for public performance. An end to more & more shops spoiling York's vistas.


Name:
Matthew Kalil
Location:
Cape Town, South Africa

Comments

Good-Grief!

I have stayed in the UK for over three years, studying and working. I found York to be the most beautiful city in England. Please! Please! Please don't destroy it with this so-called "development". Come on people, really, you KNOW this is a wrong, irrevocable action.


Name:
phil howarth
Location:
manchester uk

Comments

A historic city should treasure it's past - not destory it...


Name:
Richard Lane
Location:
Prague

Comments

A 'beacon council'? Committed to public participation? This development was decided long before it reached the public domain, and their recent threats to bankrupt the opposition show the lengths they'll go to when public participation doesn't go their way. They have sided with the developers against their heritage and citizenry in the name of proven disasterous short-term financial gain. Coppergate II is a disaster for York.


Name:
Alice Wood
Location:
Exeter, NH, USA

Comments

As one who has seen firsthand so much of the historic buildings and towns eaten up "one-size fits all" shopping malls across the USA and as a true lover of peaceful, historic York, I sincerely hope this plan never comes to fruition. Learn from the mistakes of the former colonies and do not let this happen. I assure you preserving the past is far superior to any item you could buy in those potential stores.


Name:
Dean Morgan
Location:
Manchester

Comments

I am absolutely appauled at the lengths these Money Mad Developers and the Corrupt and Incompetent Representatives of the York people (the So Called Council) can use their position and rather feudalistic influence to put their interests above that of the elector, especially when the elector definately says 'No', to yet another retail outlet.

But then, the elector is only a consumer: a cash cow for the Mamonites to exploit.

It is not really the building we all object to, but it's location. It is inappropriate to construct such an 'Out of Keeping' and tasteless building within a very prestigious and historic site.

Go and build your Ugly, Substandard and Second rate 'Temple to Consumerism' somewhere else, and remove the the corrupt dictators and their quango cronies immediately from their places of office, and allow the Citizen's of York to finally, run THEIR City as they see fit!

LEAVE OUR HERITAGE ALONE!

Ironic, isn't it, that the Bailey was originally built to supress the 'Yorkies' in the first place under the Feudal System! It really is depressing, and goes to show that very little has changed in the past 900 years.


Name:
Jonathan Irvine
Location:
York, UK

Comments

I've been a resident of York for 4 years and plan on spending a lot more years here. It doesn't need anymore shopping centres, especially built on such a nice area of land.

I hope me signing this make a difference, though I doubt it will.


Name:
Malcolm Meeson
Location:
Leeds, West-Yorkshire

Comments

Do not allow greed to destroy the heritage of this beautiful City. The area surrounding Cliffords Tower must remain as it is, this city belongs to the nation, not to fatcat businessmen.


Name:
Linda Espeut
Location:
Canada

Comments

When I visited York 3 years ago with my daughter, Clifford's Tower was one of our favourite spots. Please don't spoil it with an ugly shopping mall. We found that there were plenty of lovely shops in York as it was.


Name:
Sally Tindill
Location:
Bedale North Yorkshire

Comments

I don't live York but spent a lot of time there as a musician. Clearly, York is a beautiful historical City, already equipped for those who like to shop. The last thing York needs is more shops!, especially at this wonderful site. As we have said in Bedale on many occasions - STOP THE SPRAWL


Name:
philipp kruse
Location:
Münster Germany

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Name:
Chris Clegg
Location:
York

Comments


Name:
Thierry LEPREVOST
Location:
Caen,Normandy,France

Comments

Notre duc Guillaume le Conquérant a fait construire cette tour. C'est un monument normand! Défendons notre patrimoine contre les projets imbéciles de promoteurs sans scrupules! Il faut TOUT faire pour préserver ce site historique exceptionnel. Notre château de Falaise a été défiguré par du béton, cela suffit: plus jamais de massacre architectural, où que ce soit dans le monde!


Name:
Ian Pitman
Location:
SOmerset

Comments

I am a regular visitor to York, where I have family, and to desecrate this area in the name of commercial greed would be a travesty! Have some sense of history, and some respect for those who gave their lives on this spot.... DO NOT DEVELOP HERE!!!


Name:
Elisabeth Mains
Location:
Kentucky,USA

Comments

I live in the USA, but am a born and bred Yorkie and lived there until I came to the USA. Please, please leave the Clifford's Tower area free from monstrous shopping malls - it is scary, that York Council can seeming do just as they please. York is full of history and historical buildings. LEAVE IT ALONE DON'T SPOIL IT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.


Name:
Cath Wright
Location:
Leeds, UK

Comments

The serenity of the tower is crucial to the memory of all those that died there. Why do councils insist on distracting us from beauty and history with endless 'retail opportunities'? Leave the area around the tower alone.


Name:
susan stern
Location:
york

Comments

An important site - historically and spiritually. Planners would never attempt to do this to a Christian symbol. This is also a breathtaking piece of architecture which would be ruined by a surround of unnecessary and ugly shops. There's only one Clifford's Tower. Build a park around it - a place of rest and contemplation.


Name:
Polly Cairns
Location:
York

Comments

There are so many alternative locations in York that could be chosen for the proposed scheme. If we must have more shops-and I don't think we need them-then choose an area which will not forever ruin this important, historical and wonderful site.


Name:
Helen Kenwright
Location:
York

Comments

The area should complement and show off the magnificent heritage which is Clifford's Tower. I laughed when I heard that the Victorians had build an ugly wall around the Tower - never expecting a similar monstrosity to be proposed in my lifetime. Concentrate redevelopment on eyesore areas of the City and leave CT alone!


Name:
Ste Kenwright
Location:
York

Comments

An alternative scheme has been designed which is much better for the City - keep our heritage safe!


Name:
Wolfgang Wiemers
Location:
Muenster, Germany

Comments

I wish to join the protest and petition

- first as a citizen, and some time councillor, or the town of Muenster. Muenster and York have a long tradition of being twin-cities, so I think we have a special responsibility for each other's well-being. Personally I remember with gratefulness the efforts of British citizens to re-install democracy after the war, and to open up our view of the world. In the British Centre "Die Brücke" I got important impulses and contacts as a boy and student in the 50ies. Now as our common heritage (culture and Christianity in the Middle Ages came from York to Muenster) is threatened by a kowtow to superficial commercialism (greetings from Huxley's Brave New World!) all sensible citizens should resist. - Secondly I protest as present chairman of Muenster's "Umweltforum" (Forum of 15 local environmental groups). We have come to the insight that the protection of our environment, and a sustainable development for the benefit of future generations, require the preservation or re-establishment of small local economic and social structures. The personal example: A family with 4 children just visiting us noticed with astonishment how few shops there were in our rather extended living area, which made it difficult to send the children shopping. For a reason I could point to a big superstore they had passed on their way from the motorway, that in the recent decades had made a handful of vicinity shops close, to the disadvantage especially of children and seniour citizens. The further result is a considerable increase in motorized traffic, adding more danger for the weaker members of the community, more pollution and faster climate change. As asuccess I could mention that we recenty stopped the erection of another superstore in the neighbourhood, and our ongoing commitment. So in the name of Münster's concerned environmentalists I would like to express thanks for your efforts and encouragement for continuing.


Name:
Roland Kager
Location:
Muenster, Germany

Comments

When will people understand that a city's attractivity is much more valuable than shabby commercialism which can be get about everywhere? I am a Dutch, but I live happily and well over the border in Münster, feeling connected to York as it is a similar city in many aspects, while feeling connected to this project because if Münster city council would behvae as I've heard they are doing right now in York, I would leave for another place with more respect for its heritage.


Name:
Steven King
Location:
Dundee (ex York)

Comments

It seems to me that York has lost the plot. People come to York (as tourists and residents) for that special quality which is a rare thing in the UK - a civilised city.


Name:
Bernard Ingham
Location:

Comments

This is an example of civic vandalism on a grand scale. The application to build on this site has no merit whatsoever and should never have been allowed to progress this far.


Name:
Niall Clarke
Location:
Manchester, England

Comments

I would have hoped that at this stage, with the lessons of the urban planning disasters of the latter half of the 20th century behind us, the unique value of the Tower would be appreciated and be seen to vastly outweigh the value of more shops and offices. I would have though that the council would be promoting development in the more dilapidated areas of the town while simultaneously seeking to make even more of the space around the Tower, removing the car park and drawing together the Tower, museum and river into a unified cultural/leisure area in keeping with the current buildings. The current proposal will isolate the Tower into a tiny space backed onto by shops which will essentially culvert the river. York has plenty of excellent shops of all sorts. One of the attractions of the city is the variety of independent quality shops and the absence of the malls which have destroyed the heart of so many cities in England. I can not understand why the proposal can not be limited to the far side of the river


Name:
Steve Goodacre
Location:
Sheffield

Name:
Ray Wallis
Location:
Hull

Name:
Zara Harvey
Location:
York

Comments

There's more to York than shops!!! For goodness sake how many more do we need?!! Preserve a remarkable and beautiful piece of our heritage!!!!


Name:
Pat Nalder
Location:
Cheshire

Comments

As a resident of Chester, I have seen what can happen to a beautiful city when ill advised development is allowed to go unchecked. Like Chester, York is a jewel in the British heritage crown. Don't allow this important historical area to be ruined. When it's gone, it's gone forever.


Name:
Chris Bush
Location:
York resident

Comments

Want to see this space preserved and not burdened with unsightly shopping mall. Cannot understand Council - the transport system is already unviable.


Name:
Malcolm Dixon
Location:
Copmanthorpe, York

Comments

I do NOT support this development, or anything similar, in this particular area of York.


Name:
Enid Whitaker
Location:
Mackay, Australia

Comments

This is beaurocracy gone mad. Leave our historical sites as they are, these are what brings income into York, this is what the tourist wants to see. York has always been my favourite city in the world and I visit every time I take a trip "home", I don't want to see this famous city desecrated.


Name:
Andrea Rommel
Location:
Surrey, UK

Comments

I can't understand why always we need more and more shopping centres or other commercial sites where only materialism is promoted. There are by far enough places to go and spend your money, and where is the point of building another shopping centre where you only find the same shops and the same things for sale as round the next corner or in the next village/town?

What I really used to admire about the British is that they took good care of their historical heritage and because of this you could - at least to a certain degree - relive or imagine times gone by. But how can you feel the grandeur or importance of a place when it is squeezed in between shopping malls and office blocks? Look at the Dom in Cologne for instance, though very impressive (not only due to the sheer height of it) it is surrounded by post war and 1970/80 buildings and it completely lacks atmosphere (at least as far as I am concerned). OK, Cologne was badly devastated during the war, but I still think they could have made a better job of it. Don't do it! Enjoy and respect history and the atmosphere of York and don't ruin it by distroying the site with a shopping centre.


Name:
Christopher Breakey
Location:
Marsden, West Yorkshire

Comments

The proposed development is nothing short of desecration and must be stopped .....I can't believe it's got this far!


Name:
Andrew Herndlhofer
Location:
Alsager

Comments

This proposal is symptomatic of what is worst about Britain. All people seem to be interested in these days is lining their own pockets, at the expense of everything - even our history and heritage. How anyone in their right mind can think that the city of York would benefit from something like this is nuts. York is a the finest city in the North of England, and the city should be building things that enhance its strenghts and traditions, and allow people the time and space to really appreciate these treasures - not suffocating them under yet another shopping mall. Lunatics and assylums spring to mind.... When are we ever going to learn??


Name:
Wayne Easton
Location:
Fraserburgh Aberdeenshire

Comments

Yes I think a shopping centre so close to the Cliffords Tower site is frankly atrocious. In such a historic area too, could it not be put on the outskirts of the city?. I think York is a stunning place to visit, I've been there only three times, & gladly return, I go for the buildings & history, not to see shopping malls overcrowding the area.


Name:
Lorne J. Fortune
Location:
Toronto, Canada

Comments

Clifford's Tower is a sacred historical location. A shopping mall can be placed in a more suitable place. Leave history alone.....


Name:
troy southgate
Location:
south london

Comments

the proposed plan is a terrible violation of traditional Yorkshire heritage. Please do not approve it.


Name:
clare stubbs
Location:
kent, uk

Comments

Having visited the city, I think York is fantastic the way it is - and it already has a shopping mall and department stores. Why do developers and other (money grabbing) people insist on 'improving' what's already wonderful? Leave Clifford's Tower alone so that future generations can enjoy the past and the important lessons that can be learned from it.


Name:
Michael Shankland
Location:
Hove, East Sussex

Comments

Clifford's Tower is an important landmark for the city of York and of interest to Medievalists everywhere. It is sad to think that it could be relegated in to being overshadowed by a shopping centre. I fully support and admire the campaigners who are trying to preserve this monument's sense of distinction.


Name:
Trevor Allcott
Location:
Crimond Aberdeenshire

Comments

The old City of York area is a national treasure, and a shopping mall is a totally inappropriate development in this area, satisfying the short term commercial greed of developers without regard to the future heritage. There are surely more appropriate places to site yet another shopping mall within the extremely ugly Victorian areas of the city.


Name:
John Cooper
Location:
Sidmouth, Devon

Comments

More wretched greed-driven and utterly unsympathetic development of one of our finest and most historic old cities - wonderful!


Name:
Jwebby
Location:
Stafford

Comments

Don't let them spoil York, it doesn't need shopping malls to attract visitors, please leave it unspoilt for future generations to enjoy.


Name:
Gillian Marr
Location:
Aberdeen

Comments

Beautiful city, beautiful area - don't spoil it !


Name:
Kevin McKinstry
Location:
USA

Comments

I have never been to Cliffords Tower, but it is such a beauty of an historical site, that in NO WAY should a shopping centre be built anywhere near it. That is simply outrageous. NO SHOPPING CENTRE!!


Name:
Barrie Jubb
Location:
Yo30 7DN

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Name:
Penny Jubb
Location:
YO30 7DN

Name:
Linda Wain
Location:
Whixley

Comments

Keep out more building.Turn it into a green space>I am a car driver but would and do happily keep out of Cliffords Tower car park


Name:
Raymond MALLET
Location:
F-Suresnes

Comments

History and Art cannot be appropriated in the sole object of making more profit.


Name:
Jordan
Location:
York

Comments

This is a case of the people in power not listening to the people that they represent.


Name:
Ian Webster
Location:
Leeds

Comments

Follow the money. See who will be getting money when contracts are awarded and as in most cases you will find a link back to the people in the council.

Its always the case, take a very long and close look at the Barbican development and simply follow the money.


Name:
Ann Holt
Location:
York

Comments

The surroundings of the castle area of York at the moment are a disgrace, almost as if the council wanted people to think that anything, even a boring seventies-style shopping centre, would be preferable. What it needs is some sympathetic landscaping so that Cliffords Tower and the other buildings on the site can be enjoyed in a peaceful setting. But the real villains are English Heritage. We don't expect much aesthetic sense from our council, but until they betrayed the castle area we did from EH. Shame!


Name:
Robert M. Sandoval
Location:
Tempe, Arizona, USA

Comments

As an American I was fortunate enough to live in Cornwall for three years and visit the City of York. I plan return visits yearly, and it would be a tragedy to walk up to Clifford's castle as I remember it and see a shopping center. Americans and people from other countries visit England to see unspoiled historical sites. There is no excuse for the spoiling of Clifford's Tower. Greed seems to be motivator here. When we visit again, and Coppergate is there, you can be sure we will not shop there!


Name:
David Rubinstein
Location:
York

Comments


Name:
Heinz Beckmann
Location:
Altenberge, Germany

Comments


Name:
J A Richardson
Location:
Tennessee

Comments

My family are from York and I'm a Freeman of the City. I took an oath to protect and defend the city and believe that this includes defending against capitalists with no taste! This is a beautiful site and lovely because of the space around it. Keep it that way please.


Name:
Mark Webster
Location:
Nottingham

Comments

Don't do it, who needs another shopping mall ?


Name:
Erik Wessolleck
Location:
Muenster, Germany

Comments

It is important to protect historic buildings and landscapes, because they get fewer and they are a direct connection to european history.


Name:
vitaliy v
Location:
denver, u.s.a.

Comments

this is a historical landmark and we should not taint it's image with a shopping center, or something of that nature


Name:
Bob Edwards
Location:
York

Comments

We must prevent this municipal vandalism.


Name:
Jo Gilmore
Location:
Brighton, East Sussex

Comments

From the joint 'most profitable town in Britain for business', (Brighton, as claimed by Dun & Bradstreet) I say NO to the development - we wouldn't want it in historic parts of Brighton and it shouldn't happen in York. And York has far more history!


Name:
B.Lightfoot
Location:
Grimsby

Comments

Don`t let your City be run by nobody but the people, stop modern development around clifford tower or you will end up like my town, new buildings, no charactor, no past, all pulled down by big business and weak councils, who now bemoan what has happened, all to late, no heritage left for our children.


Name:
tim sander
Location:
leeds

Name:
Mark Jubb
Location:
Bishopthorpe, York

Comments

Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot! We have a beautiful city; full of history, character and a vibrancy that many other cities are envious of. WE ARE UNIQUE.

Please do not allow them to make York into a faceless shopping Mall that could be found anywhere else within the UK.

Keep the few green bits of York 'green'.

Please remind the so called 'developers' of the sign of the English archers of Agincourt.


Name:
Jayne Jubb
Location:
Bishopthorpe, York

Comments

Don't do it.

nuff said.


Name:
Bob Hutchinson
Location:
YORK

Comments

People come to our City to see the history, not the shops, and this is a great oppotunity to put a "green lung" right in the centre.


Name:
Chris Benney
Location:
York

Comments

The area next to Clifford's Tower should not be defaced by this shopping mall against our wishes. It would be better if Old York could have a "Central Park" like New York.


Name:
Constance Faust
Location:
Lake Havasu City, Arizona, USA     

Comments

I am originally from Barnsley, Yorkshire. Visted York in 1994 when my daughter and I went to celebrate her 21 st. birthday. York Minster was the highlight of our visit. My daughter in awe when inside the Cathedral looking as the wonderful works of art.


Name:
jools
Location:
Bedale N. Yorks

Comments

Good grief.......I don't live in York but have spent a lot of time there over the years. I love York and all it's heritage...........don't let some of it be swallowed up in yet another shopping arcade!!!There doesn't seem to be any justification for this developement...it doesn't seem to be needed and,certainly by the comments I have read on this site, definitely not wanted..............


Name:
Pete Schofield
Location:
Barnsley S.Y.

Comments

Would, I wonder, The Government allow such a thing if it were - say - the Tower of London? I think not!


Name:
Lottie Alexander
Location:
YORK

Comments

Go to Leeds, Sheffield , Newcastle or Manchester for shopping 'malls' - we really don't need them in an historic city where a great number of shops lie empty anyway. There was a beautiful scheme proposed in which there was a park and the skyline of buildings were remniscent of a medieval scene. Where has that gone? I saw a photograph the other day before the building of Fenwicks. The Tower was the prominent building - this is as it should be. Fenwicks is a blot at this site - we can't have any more. Forget making money, dear City of York Council, and instead take pride in your city - think of the legacy you will leave behind you of future slums if you sell out now.


Name:
Andy Steele
Location:
Birkenhead, Wirral

Comments

Why do the City's leaders think people like me come to York as a tourist? In two words...History and Culture. This ridiculous plan will only serve to alienate the thousands of visitors who come back time and time again. Exactly who is demanding this development? Don't try to tell me that it is the genuine long term and regular visitor who provides so much of the city's existing income. Secondly, it is a site of tremendous significance to Jews as it serves as a stark reminder that murderous anti-semitism was and is not confined to mainland Europe. As encouragement to those fighting these plans the authorities backed down on a similar plan in Poland when developers tried to build a commercial centre next door to Auschwitz.


Name:
EDWARD NUTTALL
Location:
LITTLE EGG HARBOR, NJ USA

Comments

DEVELOPMENT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY. THE PERSUIT OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL. DEFEAT EVIL, CREATE A PUBLIC NATURE RESERVE/PARK OUT OF THE AREA SURROUNDING CLIFFORD'S TOWER AND PRESERVE IT FOREVER.


Name:
Mary Clarke
Location:
Dublin, Ireland

Comments

We enjoyed our visit to Historical York and wish to voice our objection to the building of a Shopping Mall in the vicinity of Clifford's Tower.


Name:
Charles R. Alexander
Location:
Sebastian Fl USA

Comments

Originally a Yorkshireman from Hull, I have the fondest memories of the Great City of York going back to the war years when I was evacuated to the York area . It appears that the American mindset has crossed the Atlantic and the virus has latched on to the British Builder....... Over here they can't seem to throw down enough concrete, and then the people who move into these new communities complain about the "wild " animals that frequent they're back yards, the alligators and couguars etc, so they pick up the phone and call the "wildlife /consevation" people to pick up these animals and have them destroyed, this kind of thing just makes my blood boil . No you don't have the 'gators and the panthers etc but you have a beauty which should be left alone. Thanks for letting me "sound off"!


Name:
Charles R. Alexander
Location:
Sebastian Fl USA

Comments

Originally a Yorkshireman from Hull, I have the fondest memories of the Great City of York going back to the war years when I was evacuated to the York area . It appears that the American mindset has crossed the Atlantic and the virus has latched on to the British Builder....... Over here they can't seem to throw down enough concrete, and then the people who move into these new communities complain about the "wild " animals that frequent they're back yards, the alligators and couguars etc, so they pick up the phone and call the "wildlife /consevation" people to pick up these animals and have them destroyed, this kind of thing just makes my blood boil . No you don't have the 'gators and the panthers etc but you have a beauty which should be left alone. Thanks for letting me "sound off"!


Name:
Lynne Hackett
Location:
Yorkshire

Comments

I had no idea that Clifford's Tower was in such danger - are we so careless of our history that we are prepared to destroy it?

These vandals must be stopped! Another shopping centre is NOT what we need - culture and history is the glue that sticks our society together, not shopping.


Name:
Andy D'Agorne
Location:
York

Comments

I moved to York two years ago, in part because I was attracted to a place with impressive architecture. It seems such a shame to miss this opportunity to follow the example of our predecessors who donated public parks and spaces like Museum Gardens to 'the people of York'. I like the plans that keep the views across to the Foss rather than fencing it in with high buildings as if it were just an inconvenience. Put our city before short term profit!


Name:
Eric Walton
Location:
Whyalla S. Australia

Comments

Preserve this lovely piece of Yorkshire history nearly 800 years old. Don't spoil the ship for a ha'peth of tar. Lived 40 years in leeds.


Name:
Julie Faries
Location:
Holly Springs Mississppi USA

Comments

I visited Cliffords tower in 1996. Please dont do this!!! Your country is so fortunate to have the wonderful ancient monuments and daily reminders of such a heritage, no where on earth can compare!!

There is nothing as non descript nor non aesthetic as a shopping mall. Keep them out of that area of York. When one steps on the narrow streets with the buildings leaning overhead, its like going back in time. That hwhole area is incredible!

Do like we Americans do. Build your malls in the suburbs or the outside of the city common. !!!

Julie Faries


Name:
Canuck-Pen
Location:
B.C. Canada

Comments

Please add my name to your petition as I feel that they should leave the tower alone...Greed and a closed mind is not the answer to this BAD IDEA.


Name:
Catherine Meekin
Location:
Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, U.S.A.

Comments

I have visited Clifford's Tower several times,and would hate to think of modern commercialisation and development ruining that wonderful, historic place. Please don't let this happen. My first visit to England was in 1978 when I fell deeply in love with its marvelous sites of antiquity and history. On subsequent visits, I have been dismayed to see the changes brought about in the name of "progress". I realize a certain amount of change is necessary, but it is time to realize that once these fine, historical sites are gone, they are GONE. Please preserve Clifford Tower and its surrounding area. Thank you.


Name:
Paul Webster
Location:
Richardson St, York

Comments

This development is ill-planned. There should be a green space between the Tower and the River Foss; also the centre of York does not need the additional car parking in the proposed multi-storey on Piccadilly as this will generate increased traffic and disincentivize public transport and park & ride. Also, the centre of York doesn't need more luxury flats, which are usually bought as holiday homes; some social housing should be included.


Name:
Steve
Location:
York

Comments

We dont need it! its a joke


Name:
Cllr.David Wilde
Location:
York

Comments

I was one of two councillors on Planning Committee voting against the proposals on grounds of very poor quality of architecture for buildings proposed opposite and adjacent to the tower. This, despite Local Plan insisting on requirement for development here to be of outstanding design.


Name:
Clare Harrison
Location:
York

Comments

Turn the place in to a park, not a shoping centre. Stonegate Walk (another shopping centre in York which failed and was sold off to property developers), did not work, so what makes the developers/Council think Coppergate II will fare any better?


Name:
Judith Hecker
Location:
Münster (Germany)

Comments

I spent three wonderful months in York while attending a summer course at the university. It was really the best time in my life and I am very concerned about the news from there. The historic flair and special atmosohere of that unique place has to be preserved!


Name:
Bob Appleyard
Location:
Western Australia

Comments

The proposal put foreward by York planners is another nail in the city's coffin. Just leave it and the surrounding area alone.


Name:
Madge Dresser
Location:
Bristol

Comments

This is a short-sighted development which will not in the long term reflect well on those who sponsor it. This is a site of world-wide significance one which if fostered could further enhance the tourist appeal of York, particularly in the US market. It is a site which school pupils in the UK, now committed to learning about what citizenship entails, need to see. In the climate of growing European Anti-semitism, the altering of this site to accommodate a commercial shopping development is an act of the grossest insensitivity and one which will ultimately backfire.. So on commercial grounds, aesthetic grounds, not to mention ethical grounds, I urge planners to reconsider their decision.

Madge Dresser School of History University of the West of England


Name:
David Ashley
Location:
Leeds

Comments


Name:
Cedric Damoiseau
Location:
France

Comments

Je souhaite la sauvegarde et la protection de ce haut lieu de la mémoire normande et de la mémoire juive en Angleterre.


Name:
Rayah Feldman
Location:
London, England

Name:
Charlotta Colliander Golding
Location:
Brussels

Comments

Having lived in York for over a year and being married to a York man with strong roots to his city I can only say STOP THIS MISTAKE NOW! York has more than enough shopping centres and will be one huge Wal-Mart soon if you don't come to your senses over there. I'm Swedish and us Swedes always think of England as a country where you can visit interesting historical sites that people are proud of. Please let us keep this image of you. If we wanted US style shopping centres, we would go to the US, not Yorkshire!


Name:
R.A.Appleyard
Location:
Western Australia

Comments

May I appeal to the recipient to stop this mindless, careless and thoughtless proposal.


Name:
Joy Appleyard
Location:
S.W. Australia

Comments

I was introduced to Cliffords Tower and it's environs by my husband many years ago and found a sense of peace there. Please stop this appalling proposal.


Name:
Lorna Warren
Location:
Sheffield

Comments

Consumerism gone mad.


Name:
Stella-Anne Jackson
Location:
York

Comments

The desecration of York's most important historical site should not be allowed!


Name:
Kurzmann
Location:
Austria

Comments

Sandra Smith from Australia said what I'd say. So please read her statement (3 entries before). I'm totally her opinion.


Name:
Andrew Macdonald
Location:
Ottawa, Canada

Comments


Name:
Ian Travers
Location:
Maryland, USA

Comments

I finished studying in York last september and I'm astounded to see that they're still even contemplating this! I'm an English archaeologist, so maybe I'm biassed, but I spend all day watching my American work-mates pore over 18th century glass. There are numerous other opportunities for commercial growth so why damage one of the biggest attractions that York has to offer? Surely tourism is THE money-maker.


Name:
Keith Henson
Location:
Doncaster

Comments

As a one time resident and 'York-o-phile' I was horrified to learn of this new development. Surley the city has enough shops to cater for most needs. If not, then is it neccesary to infringe on such an historic area.


Name:
Adam Single
Location:
Reading

Comments

As a son of York I am ashamed that its council has seemingly leapt at the offer of a few quid from Land Securities (towards more public transport) at the price of squandering one of its most celebrated heritage resources. York Tomorrow's scheme offered further improvement of the site vista and amenity but this has been apparantly forced out of the running by a low piece of planning chicanery.

One of the Council for British Archaeology's recommendations for the new combined PPG15 and 16 (planning guidance) is that it place more value on historic settings, character, landscapes etc. Unfortunately it may be too late for Clifford's Tower to benefit from such a holistic view of our heritage. York is unique but another multistorey shopping mall will push it a little further down the road that is turning all our towns into anonymous, identikit, consumer precincts.


Name:
Miriam Moss
Location:
Leeds, UK

Comments

The lessons of history should not be subdued by modern necessities. After all, there is no evidence that we have understood the link between memorial and change. We have much to do still.


Name:
Peter Millward
Location:
Hong Kong

Name:
Peter Millward
Location:
Hong Kong

Name:
Rachel
Location:
London

Comments

This is the most insensitive idea I've heard in years. The thought of building a shopping mall on the site of such a horrific act is abhorrent.


Name:
Lisa Blanckenhagen
Location:
London

Comments

I am really shocked to have heard about this proposed shopping mall on such a hostorically sensitive site. I truly hope that the weight of this petition will lend a hand to stopping this thoughtless development.


Name:
Philip Gimmack
Location:
London

Comments

I have visited York and this memorial many times.On occasion purely to show others this memorial.

It is laughable that for over nine hundread years this has stood prominently as a reminder of the intollerances in society and it may now give way in prominence to a shopping centre.

To obscure from view and overshadow this monument ( as per the plans) would be a desecration of massive proportions and those that propose this should be ashamed that the weights of their pockets have outweighed that of their consciences

Memorials such as this MUST be prominent and not impinged by other buildings especially those of base consumerism as it would completely undermine its status


Name:
Paul Willowfield
Location:
London

Comments

I just sold my shares in Land Securities you greedy,insensitive b*******

To the Directors:

When you were at school did you dream of taking the pride from a whole City

&

The respect from a 1000 year old monument

A monument reminding us : of man's inhumanity against man

IF you would like to contact Land Securities:

London 5 Strand London WC2N 5AF

Tel: 020 7413 9000 Fax: 020 7925 0202 Email: landsecurities@landsecurities.com


Name:
Michelle Mazzocco
Location:
Maryland, USA

Comments

The importance Clifford's Tower and surrounding historic district hold for the identity of York is not being given enough attention. The planned development is not an effective way of creating much-needed revitalisation in the city centre.


Name:
Peter Rice
Location:
Barnsley, UK

Comments

To allow this monument to be obscured by the shopping development would be a crime. It is one of the major medieval monuments of the city.


Name:
Chris Flanagan
Location:
York

Comments

I do not feel the proposed shopping mall on the area around Clifford's Tower is appropriate, I think a more appropriate use of the site would be to develop it as a garden area.


Name:
K.F.E. Standring
Location:
Epsom, Surrey

Comments

It would impinge on the spiritual significance of the site on which Clifford's Tower stands, as a reminder of the existence and potential consequences of religious and racial intolerance. The scale of the proposed development would inappropriately dominate a very historic area of York, whilst using materials that would be out of keeping with the existing buildings.


Name:
J. & E. Sharples
Location:
York, England

Comments

We agree that the threat of legal expenses being charged to the movement against the proposal for the shopping development at Clifford's Tower is totally outrageous. The fact that we, as council tax payers of the city, should be expected to pay for something with which we so strongly disagree is diabolical. We can only hope that justice will prevail in the face of such opposition to the proposed development.


Name:
Louis-Luc Le Guerrier
Location:
Montréal (Québec) CANADA

Comments

Green spaces and historic buildings must never be turned into ugly malls with asphalt and parking lots.

Instead, take an existing ugly car road or parking lot to make a pedestrian mall. This is a proof of intelligence from the human being that makes development for people on legs with the ecosystem.

DON'T LET THE CAR OR CAR-CENTRIC DEVELOPMENT OF ANY KIND TAKE ONE MORE SQUARE CENTIMETRE OF OUR LAND. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!


Name:
Simon Baddeley
Location:
Birmingham

Comments

Cities must be centres of retail in a post-industrial age but please don't forget that one of the things you must retail is a sense of place - not just object for material consumption. Blight people's sense of place and you blight their future for years. Get it right and you can do the opposite. Have a care for your genius locii! Remember too that a city exists in people's minds as well as in their direct experience. Damage part of York and you damage people's idea of the place - as damage to a place of beauty you may never visit like parts of Afghanistan or Ankor Wat - cause hurt across a far wider population than those of actual visitors, whose behaviour they will nonetheless influence.


Name:
bill norman
Location:
calgary alberta

Comments

The charm of places like St. Ives on the coast and York is that the streets are narrow not allowing car traffic and their is not load of McDonalds or Burger King logos splattered all over the landscape.


Name:
Lucille Stiffler
Location:
Dallas, Tx, USA

Comments

You are in danger of becoming just like Dallas- boring and stupid. The choice is in your hands.


Name:
Robert Castle Gay
Location:
Tucson Arizona US

Comments

Here in the southwest of the US we have our own version of tlrying to keep greedy developers from desecrating both historically important sites, and the spectacular desert environment which nourishes us, so we sympathize with the goal of preserving the space around Clifford's Tower. Commercial opportunities do need to be made available to developers, but only with conditions attached which maintain the integrity of architectural history so clearly valued by ALMOST everyone whose life it's touched. (Though our family has spent a couple of generations in North America, our roots are in Cornwall, and I'm pround of the family name CASTLE, having given the name to my first son, whom I hope to have experience at least a few of the castles of the British Isles in his lifetime.) Please consider and preserve the uniqueness which stands to be irrevocably damaged if this project is built as planned, and be creative in setting conditions for controlled and sensitive development and evolution of your amazing and unique city. Thanks for your consideration, and know that there are a lot of us out here interested in this issue!


Name:
Amanda Peck
Location:
Waynesboro, TN, USA

Comments

A few years back I read an essay somewhere about the future of the shopping mall. Not much, unless it could become a sort of city center on its own. This project sounds more like a bilk the tourists routine, guaranteed to fail after five or ten years, to become a scary wasteland.

I've been in a few of those. Scary wasteland is an appropriate phrase.

Even the massive Opryland turned shopping mall is fighting for tenants. The discount places across the street are all but empty.


Name:
Fred Elbel
Location:
USA/Planet Earth

Comments

www.EcoFuture.org is a website dedicated to sustainability issues. As the owner, I must say that it is clear that blatant disregard for cultural heritage in favor of commercialism is one of the byproducts of our misguided age.

As a society, we owe future generations this legacy. Every effort should be expended to preserve this area against commercial development.

Sincerely,

Fred Elbel


Name:
rebeckah
Location:
aubertin

Comments

what an ill planned and unfair event this is- i hope the people triumph and can be a powerful ally for themselves


Name:
Peter duPre
Location:
Poulsbo, WA USA

Comments

As an expat Brit I realize that the island is full of old castles and momuments. It is part of what makes Britain, Britain. These sites are a part of our sacred trust and shouldn't be knocked down to install condos, shoppings malls, amusement parks and the like.

I say keep the tower. There is little left of Britain before William. Let's not start losing what's left of our heritage after William.


Name:
Susan Maxwell
Location:
Colorado, USA

Comments

Shopping Malls can be built anywhere. Why tear down something that is irreplaceable?


Name:
Donnell Jakobs
Location:
Boulder, Colorado

Comments

I lived in Harrogate, N. Yorkshire for 19 years and always enjoyed the beauty of the City of York. To build another shopping center would only increase the heavy burden of parking problems already present in the city. To destroy one of the few intact areas of historical importance, to blight the city with yet another unnecessary shopping area is reprehensible. The city would do better to combat the problem of flooding from the Ouse, rather than to build another shopping failure and further destroy the ambiance of this wonderful city.


Name:
Catherine Hicks
Location:
Denver, CO, USA

Comments

I have had the great honor of visting Great Britan and spent time in York. I found it to be a delightful city, and full of historical and cultural significance.

I am planning another visit in June 2003, and would really hate to see this city spoiled by a modern shopping mall.

Thank you for the chance to voice an opinion.


Name:
Lorna Kent
Location:
USA Colorado

Comments

I have visited the area only once, but I am concerned about ill-advised developement in a historical area of this magnatude. This is like putting a shopping mall in Mesa Verde. You have so much to treasure, we have so little.


Name:
Pam
Location:

Comments


Name:
Pam Thorley
Location:
Qld. Australia

Comments

Cliffords Tower should be held as sacred. NO shopping centre or development of ANY nature should be allowed to infringe on its surrounds. The possibility of any damage being caused, regardless of how miniscule, must be avoided at all costs. This damage must not just be physical, but spiritual and historical also. I have wonderful memories of visiting this area when I was still a resident of my home, Yorkshire. The atmosphere here is magic and should be preserved.


Name:
Nina Steele
Location:
Beaumaris, Wales

Comments

As someone working in heritage management I find it hard to understand why York City Council is willing to sacrifice the open space around Clifford's Tower and the contribution to a sense of place which it provides. To dwarf Clifford's Tower with a large commercial development that will so significantly affect the setting seems sacrilege when so many of us strive to protect our cultural heritage.


Name:
Lynn Davies
Location:
Selby

Comments

Why would anyone want to deface our beautiful city????


Name:
RL Goldstein
Location:
New York, NY USA

Comments

Please preserve this historic treasure and its surroundings. Do not allow the development of a shopping centre to spoil it. Please do what is right, not what is profitable for the few.

Thank you!


Name:
Jonathan Tyler
Location:
York

Comments

I spent many hours at the Inquiry on behalf of York Tomorrrow. Quite apart from the sheer unacceptability of the shopping mall, I was appalled at the Council's arrogance in believing that it has a monopoly of wisdom in planning and traffic. Their barristers repeatedly implied that it was presumptuous of me and other witnesses to be querying Council expertise and decisions. Stop it !


Name:
Dr. Charles Allen
Location:
Oakland, CA

Comments


Name:
Alan Beal
Location:
Leeds

Comments

It would be wanton vandalism to have a shopping mall at Clifford's Tower. It should be preserved and protected as it is. We do not want any ugly commercialism spoiling the historic beauty of York. If money is needed it should be available from the Lottery. They give money to many very doubtful causes. Here is one that very worthwhile.


Name:
Brian Mills
Location:
Vancouver, Canada

Comments

With my family I travelled a great distance to visit York this summer. I visited your city because it is unique.

There is nothing unique about a shopping mall. Nothing attractive. Nothing to enhance your city.

Don't let this be your tawdry legacy. You can do better.


Name:
Mark Sealey
Location:
Valencia CA

Comments

I too live in the USA, and am from Yorks.

Stop the nonsense. Save what's worth saving. Good luck!


Name:
Agnes Keiser
Location:
Pennsylvania, USA

Name:
Bob Matthews
Location:
Hamilton, Ontario Canada

Comments

I have happy memories of visiting this area as a child growing up in York and I am appalled that the City could envision this in the name of crass commercialism. We have enough of that on this side of the pond. I urge the City to reconsider. RM


Name:
Lee Davidson
Location:
Leeds

Name:
Lee Davidson
Location:
Leeds 6

Comments

This development is entirely inappropriate so close to a major historical site, and will ruin a very special place in York.


Name:
Christine Giblin
Location:
Australia

Comments

Clifford's Tower and the surrounding area should not be forfieted for more shops. There is surely another area that yet more stores could be placed. Tourism to Clifford's Tower and the Castle Museum put be jeapordised because tourists go to York for the history experience - if they want to go shopping then they will go to Leeds/Manchester/Newcastle. Please do not change the the environment in one of York's most treasured areas.


Name:
Gini Otway
Location:
New York

Comments

The area around Clifford's Tower should be left alone.


Name:
Clare Rickell
Location:
Sydney, Australia

Comments

How can they possibly do this to such a beautiful City, I have no idea what goes on is some peoples head, just money I suppose. I came over to York 4 years ago and was appalled what they had done then to Paliment St. what a diasaster that was, can they not realize that York is so historical that this should be left alone and NOT try and make it modern, how do they expect people to park when parking is so bad in York anyway people would just park in the shopping parking and the real shoppers would end up with no where to park. Once ruined never to go back, look what they did when the tore down parts of the bar walls so now theres only bits to walk along, that can never be put back, it part of Englands history and that should stay in tact. This will stop people from visiting York, why would they want to come and see a shopping centre in tha background of the pictures what a disaster this would be they should be shot these developers and council should be hung, drawn and quartered to even entertain the idea.


Name:
rev.d j. petty
Location:
burnley,lancs..

Comments

As a regular visitor to York I feel dismayed at the thought of your proposed development in the vicinity of Clifford,s Tower. It would be an act of sheer bad taste verging on vandalism!


Name:
TRACY ELLIS
Location:
YORK

Comments

The beauty of the Castle Museum / Cliffords Tower site is that in a built up area it is a mini oasis of greenery. To develop further in this location will detract both from the beauty and the sense of tranquility that this monument deserves. It is a site of pilgrimage to many members of the general public and Jewish community and should not be encroached upon by a commercial eyesore. Surely on a site regarded by many as a memorial to the Jewish community of York and their strength of belief such an unsympathetic proposal should not have made it past the initial application stage.

York City Council claim to be a "user driven" authority with a high level of resident consultation yet the fact that this proposal has progressed so far makes a mockery of this claim.

It's time for them to prove their claims, hold a residents consultation ballot and act upon the peoples wishes not the accountants!!


Name:
Dinda Evans
Location:
San Diego, CA

Comments

We need to preserve all the natural beauty we can & to allow future generations to view historic sites as they were- not in the middle of malls, etc.


Name:
Liza Rameryd
Location:
Washington, DC

Comments

I'm a concerned Swede with strong ties to York and Yorkshire. Please do not build a tacky shopping center at Clifford's Tower! I see horrid examples in this country with all their strip malls and huge indoor shopping malls. Do people really need another shopping center? I'm sure people in York have enough shopping opportunities at the malls outside the city and in the little shops in York itself. I visit friends every autumn and love to walk thru York and get my yearly dose of history (and I mean old history) and atmosphere of this lovely city. What's next! Getting rid of my favorite tea room (Betty's) and putting in a fast food place instead! Oh please no!


Name:
Liza Rameryd
Location:
Washington, DC

Comments

I'm a concerned Swede with strong ties to York and Yorkshire. Please do not build a tacky shopping center at Clifford's Tower! I see horrid examples in this country with all their strip malls and huge indoor shopping malls. Do people really need another shopping center? I'm sure people in York have enough shopping opportunities at the malls outside the city and in the little shops in York itself. I visit friends every autumn and love to walk thru York and get my yearly dose of history (and I mean old history) and atmosphere of this lovely city. What's next! Getting rid of my favorite tea room (Betty's) and putting in a fast food place instead! Oh please no!


Name:
Alan Harris
Location:
Todmorden

Comments

Another bit of old England to be hidden.Much has happened here - a place for reflection and even bearing in mind its history - prayer - to be submerged. What sort of people would we be if we silently allowed this?


Name:
Alan Harris
Location:
Todmorden

Comments

Another bit of old England to be hidden.Much has happened here - a place for reflection and even bearing in mind its history - prayer - to be submerged. What sort of people would we be if we silently allowed this?


Name:
Barry Hall
Location:
Florida, USA

Comments

Why stop at Clifford's Tower? The Minster would make a great indoor market. The Gates impede traffic. The walls serve no useful purpose. The streets are too narrow. Insanity and vandalism are alive and living in the council chambers at York. Rise up you citizens, the future of your beautiful city is under threat. If you let them get away with this nothing will be safe.


Name:
Neil R Brooke
Location:
LEEDS W. YORKS

Comments

An unecessary development.


Name:
Andy Beck
Location:
Morley, Leeds

Comments

I am an ex-pat York resident, having grown up in the City. I oppose the proposed development of the shopping mall.


Name:
Valerie L.
Location:
Wisconsin, U.S.A.

Comments

Whatever next! Money, money that is what it's all about unfortunately. I was born in Hull and raised in Harrogate and have fond memories of trips to York. Who on earth wants another shopping mall! You visit York for history because there is so much of it in every twist and turn. The Shambles, the Minster and both the Museum and the Railroad Museum, the Wall around the city and Clifford's Tower. No leave this famous piece of history alone. A shopping mall will create more litter, more cars! Do not deface this beautiful city with such an atrocity!


Name:
Paul Whitehead
Location:
Australia

Comments

Born and bred in York and believe that some things from the past must remain from progress. There are enough shops in York to satisfy shoppers. York is one of the most historic beautiful towns in the world, leave it that way.


Name:
Diane Carter
Location:
Gisborne, New Zealand

Comments

I cannot believe the City Council can even consider this invasion of an historic building. Haven't they learned anything from the disastrous building of the 60s, just look at the monstrosities in Petergate and Goodramgate. What has the Civic Trust done about it. People don't go to York to shop but to look at history.


Name:
Diane Carter
Location:
Gisborne, New Zealand

Comments

I cannot believe the City Council can even consider this invasion of an historic building. Haven't they learned anything from the disastrous building of the 60s, just look at the monstrosities in Petergate and Goodramgate. What has the Civic Trust done about it. People don't go to York to shop but to look at history.


Name:
jackie clayton (nee Whitehead)
Location:
australia

Comments

Growing up in York until my family emigrated in 1965, I have many happy memories of the area around Cliffords Tower. The Museum the Law Courts (seeing the lawyers in all their red robes), the daffodils. Why on earth do people try and destroy unique historical sites, o.k. they are not going to pull the tower down but to build more shopping malls around that area is revolting. I have had the chance in 1989 of once again seeing York and its beauty. I brought my Aussie husband and 2 teenage children - they thought it was a wonderful place - I can remember the children running up the steps to the top of Cliffords Tower. Please find somewhere else to build the mall which eventually all become tired looking in an area that is not so sensative. Thankyou Jackie Clayton


Name:
Alison Morgan
Location:
York

Comments

The council claims a new mall full of chainstores will increase tourism. So why do people from all over the world come to York instead of Leeds?


Name:
Andrea Landwehr
Location:
USA

Comments

I think it would be a terrible thing to disrupt such a beautiful reminder of the past. What is the world coming to? No one cares about remembering where we came from? No one wants to show our children how we lived in the past? What a sad, sad thing. My mother was born in England and I have family there. We visit as often as possible and when we're their, I can't get enough of the beautiful countryside. Especially the wonderful artifacts of the past. It would be a shame to defile this wonderful glimpse of the past!


Name:
Kathryn Elseman
Location:
Omaha NE USA

Comments


Name:
Ray Ironmonger
Location:
Shrewsbury

Comments

I am proud to be York Born, and this proposal is unbelieveable will the city planners ever learn? We have had to bear the monstrosity of Stonebow all these years and now this suggestion! There is a smell of stinking fish here.Someone is on the take.


Name:
Wendy Brawer
Location:
NYC

Name:
Yaelle Pazzy
Location:
NYC

Comments

I've been to Clifford's Tower when I visited York two years ago. I was deeply moved by what had happened there. Please don't destroy history.


Name:
K. Mouchly
Location:
California, USA

Comments

And I believed the Brits respected history. Please leave Clifford Tower alone. Another shopping mall won't make any difference but keeping this historic site for future generations will.


Name:
Pat Roberts
Location:
ChCh, New Zealand

Comments

To destroy such buildings as Clifford's Tower is to destroy a vital part of history and to deprive future generations of the priviledge of being able to see for themselves what people went through all those years ago. For what - a shopping mall. Hasn't York got enough shops. . There were enough 25 years ago so surely must be more than enough now. One would have to say this is a hidden agenda for the councillors and they do not have the welfare of the city at heart but more personal gain in the form of noterity etc. Not everyone who visits York wants to spend their days in shops. Give the councillors a vote of no confidence - most of them are corrupt anyway.


Name:
Tony Haffenden
Location:
KuwaitCity

Comments

Though currently living in Kuwait I am a houseowner in York and will return.

Just what the city needs - another bloody shopping centre !! For once let heritage, culture and history prevail over the greed of a few "here today, gone tomorrow" men.


Name:
Paul Temperton
Location:
London (born in East Yorkshire)

Comments

A shopping mall is the last thing York needs. What all cities do need is as much open and green space as possible.


Name:
Paul & Dawn Gretton
Location:
Gisborne, New Zealand

Comments

We recently visited Clifford's Tower and would be horrified to think the open space around the tower could be desecrated by building development.


Name:
Paul & Pat Robinson
Location:
Plymouth, Devon, UK

Comments

We were both brought up in the Walmgate area of York attending St Georges and St Lawrence's schools respectively and are horrified to hear of the proposed development. Have the York planners gone mad?


Name:
Jonathan Lewis
Location:
Leeds

Comments

This is an important historical site. There must be better places for a shopping centre


Name:
Ilana Voloshin
Location:
Slovenia

Comments

United Kingdom is a big country, so please find a place for a mall that is not a history, that is not a heritage.


Name:
Dan Soler
Location:
Seattle USA

Comments

no amount of prosperity will ever justify the loss of culture to present and future generations. i live in a place where progress was chosen in favor of culture, and wouldn't wish that on any other city.


Name:
Dominic Robinson
Location:
Boroughbridge

Comments

Use the opportunity to make the area about Clifford's Tower truly special. The last thing anyone needs is more shops.


Name:
John Robinson
Location:
Plymouth

Comments

Leave it be, ya buggers!


Name:
Richard Hodgson
Location:
Scarborough

Comments

Architectural pornography !


Name:
Location:

Comments

I don't have a particular view on the massacre of jews, since the nation of isreal has no particular qualms against killing all non-zionists. I do have a negative view of allowing Wal-Mart the unlimitted right(s) to build store(s) wherever they want. Since I am not a Brittish citizen I realize my view is relatively unimportant, I still claim that Wal-Mart is EVIL. Since evil is a force beyond personal\corporate choice this corporation should be stopped on every civic and religious(WE HATE EVIL don't we?)front. Perhaps a war against Iraq would help. In the interim, preventing Wal-Mart from destroying one more community might be a worthwhile project.


Name:
Joan Lockwood
Location:
Brisbane, Australia

Comments

Historic buildings are priceless enhancements of the environment. They are simply unique and irreplaceable. Lets not sell our souls for profit, eh!! Find somewhere already horrible to develop. Or better still, knock down some awful manifestation of modern so-called architecture. But leave the ancient stuff alone. We need beauty and history. We can do without soulless developers.


Name:
Andy Robson
Location:
London

Comments

As a former resident of York I am personally appalled by this plan.

As a history graduate and former student of - among other things - Clifford's Tower, I can confirm that this structure and its wider environs is of national and international cultural and historic importance.


Name:
Martyn Clayton
Location:
York

Comments


Name:
Ian Hale
Location:
South Africa

Comments

This is a ridiculous idea.

Surely the history of York should be the draw card.

Move the mall out of the centre. As it is you are restricted to drive into York, it has been discouraged by the council for years.

Someone is sleeping or making a lot of money!


Name:
Jack Brezina
Location:
Ontario, Canada

Comments

Heritage structures must be preserved. Surely there are other locations near motorways or on the outskirts of the city where this type of development would be more suitable. Keep up the fight, because once its gone there will be no getting it back.


Name:
Albert Bond
Location:
America.

Comments

Have many times past through and stayed in the City of York and before moving to the U.S. spent many day's in York. It certainly would be a shame to let the heritage of the area be desicrated, do all you can to retain the past, and allow no changes for posterity.


Name:
Jonathan and Marilyn Balcombe
Location:
Washington, DC, USA

Comments

Dear Sir/Madam,

We write to express our sincere hope that a proposal to develop a shopping mall opposite the site of Cliffords Tower in York does NOT happen. My parents live in York and we will be moving there next year to be closer to them. We visited Cliffords Tower in late April and were enchanted by its beauty and history. We highly value York for its efforts to preserve the historical spirit and flavor that make it one of England's most attractive places to live.

Please don't spoil York's beauty and history with modern commercial development! Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Balcombe, Ph.D. Marilyn Balcombe, Ph.D. Emily Balcombe (8 year old daughter).


Name:
Malcolm Wigglesworth
Location:
Scarborough

Comments

Stop this desecration of our heriatage. there is enough shopping in York without imposing this monstrosity (or any other development) on this delightfull part of York.

I will certainly never shop there is it opens. I shop out of town then visit the city for its beauty, not its concrete


Name:
David Andrews
Location:
Leicester

Comments

As an itinerant Yorkshireman now doinf missionary work in Leicestershire I am appalled that Cliffi=ords Tower is threatened in this way. In my youth I spent many happy days exploring the glories of mediaeval York whilst my mother was working as a locum in the city. This building is part of the heritage not only of York, but also England and Britain. Desecration by modern development must not be allowed to take place.


Name:
chris hockley
Location:
switzerland

Comments

and the end of the day as that area is a labour constituncy (thats why i emmigrated and left york) and they will do what ever the developers tell them to do as they don t give a damn about what the voters think yorks heritage means nothing to them or the developers just money.


Name:
Graeme Thomas
Location:
14 Queens Court, Fetter Lane York YO1 6EH

Comments

This national monument must be preserved unecumbered by a modern architectural retail complex on its doorstep. This development must not proceed. How can sernsitive new developments be constructed at a time when existing retail space stands empty? Graeme Thomas


Name:
Karen Williams
Location:
Hong Kong

Comments

Every year when I go back home to visit my family in Yorkshire, we visit York. It would be a crime to see the landscape blotted.


Name:
David
Location:
Huddersfield

Comments

I visit York loads and think it would be a tragedy to spoil this beautiful piece of history.


Name:
Alan Hughes
Location:
Denmark

Comments

I was born and bred in York so I am well acquainted with the draconian methods of York Council. So they want to commence with phase two of Coppergate,this after all is what it is, and has been in the pipeline for years. Your approach is right to the campaign to bring adverse publicity to YCC and their handling of probably the most sensitive proposal since the building of the Minster.For YCC´s part, it all boils down to a fast buck and personal self prestige,Again! However, be prepared for a dirty fight in and out of legal avenues.An injuction could be in order and also sound out the archeoligists interest. My father was a building contracts manager in York in the 50`s and 60`s with the Stonebow House to his discredit and the Ambulance station on Toft Green. He told me the Council clerk of works told him to hide any remains found, which he did ,from Jewbury,as the YCC are really scared of sites being stopped by the archqies. As regard support, just tell me what to do.


Name:
Jenny
Location:
Elland, West Yorkshire

Comments

I love York and cliffords tower is where i used to love going up as a kid and it is a brilliant symbol of York, and meeting place. I dont know whats been going on lately but if its under threat then i will sign this!!.


Name:
mary broadhead
Location:
York

Comments

This project ia all about cash. Why won't the city council listen to what we the people of York want. Another nice green place for people to enjoy near the river Foss and what must be one of the best museums in the country It goes without saying how lucky we are to have the wonderful castle in the middle of the city I thought the modern idea was to move shops near to the outer ring road, Please leave the area near our castle alone, or make it into a park


Name:
Gordon Campbell-Thomas
Location:
York, England

Comments

We must stop this act of "cultural vandalism". If we are to bequeath to our children a city that reflects the rich tapestry of history, as well as giving them a quality of life, then at all costs we must not let this development go ahead


Name:
biff Appia
Location:
Ballard, Wa., USA

Comments

Here in the U.S. are history is extremely manufactured. You should set some form of example for your colonies, or are you. joy & rapture, -biff-


Name:
Kia Zak